
Now I will admit powder burning curves could add a variable to "felt" recoil, but I think total recoil remains the same. The "pressures" are contained by the firearm. Is this an opinion, or your interpretation of physics/conservation of momentum? Cuz equal mass at equal velocities out of equal weight (same type of action) guns is.well, equal. of shot in both 12 gauge and a 20 gauge, the 20 gauge is going to kick harder because it's the exact same load in a smaller chamber/area, therefore it has higher pressure. For instance, if you are shooting a 3 dram load with 1 oz. In fact, with the same load equivalent, a 20 gauge actually kicks harder than a 12 gauge. You contradict yourself in the same paragraph.who needs 7/8oz shells if the kick is the same (12ga vs 20ga)? 12 gauge shells that any 5 year old could shoot.SUPER SOFT. If you don't want the high recoil, buy lower powered 12 gauge shells. It seems like nobody else is aware of the fact that 12 gauges DO NOT kick harder than 20 gauges!! I don't understand why anyone would ever buy a 20 gauge shotgun. Okay.just a quick little comment on recoil. However, if you want to hunt and shoot the occasional round of targets, the Yildiz should be great. One thing to know is that if you plan on shooting lots of targets (I am talking 8,000-10,000 rounds a year which is not uncommon among some people I know) then the Yildiz's will probably not hold up. I am more than happy with mine and will be using them this dove season. If you get one, look over several and pick the one with the best wood and metal. The 20 gauge is a dream to carry and weighs next to nothing. The 12 gauges do kick a bit and the LimbSaver is worth the money. Academy took the gun back and exchanged it(even though their company policy says they won't, when you call the corporate office repeatedly it can help to change store policy) and the gun I got in return shoots great. The first 12 gauge I had shot the bottom barrel way low. One thing to watch out for is quality control, which can be lacking in lower cost doubles. If any of you cut one down let me know how it works out.I have a 12 gauge over/under and a 20 gauge side by side, both of which I like. Two things stop me from doing this, one is you would lose the modified choke and the other is I would not want to be the one to test fire it because of the weight lost with that extra barrel length. PS: Some of you are going to look at this gun folded and think wouldn't it be neat if the barrel was cut off even with the stock when folded. I will be ordering a new recoil pad for it. All in all it seems a quality made lightweight shotgun for not a lot of money. Mine is folded and under the backseat of the truck.

It could be carried in a backpack or bug out bag without adding a lot of weight. It will fit into small areas and would make a great survival gun with a few of the different caliber inserts. I am not going to stand and shoot a round of trap with it but I would like to carry it under the back seat for whenever I need a shotgun. If you think by now that I don't like this lightweight gun you are very wrong. As far as this folding lightweight shotgun I would recommend one of the new recoil absorbing recoil pads if you will be shooting it much.

I will be shooting these shells next week in a Stoeger M3k race gun and will report more on the load. They patterned very well and at 1350 fps they reached out and powdered clays with the one ounce load but the recoil of the 3 1/2 dram load in the 4 3/4 pound firearm with no recoil pad was punishing. I shot about half a box of the new Winchester AA Super Sport Sporting Clays loads provided by Ammo to Go for testing. Light dove loads were punishing in this firearm. I don't think I would fire a three inch shell in this gun unless I absolutely had to. The gun weighs only 4 3/4 pounds and has a three inch chamber. It weighs about half of what my over under weighs. The shotgun breaks open by pulling a lever in front of the trigger guard which also cocks the firearm. Let me say this gun is light, really light weight.
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The safety is an unmarked manual thumb safety with the forward position being the ready to fire position. This single shot has a 28 inch solid ribbed barrel with a brass bead and modified choke. I am a sucker for bargain guns so one came home with me. The day I was in Academy they had them on the daily hot deal for $129.99. Even though this Turkish made folding shotgun sells for only $159.99 at Academy Sports it has a nice looking wood stock and silver receiver with some scroll engraving. Right off the bat I thought what a nice looking single shot shotgun.
